14 goals
9 in Prem
4 in UEFA Cup
1 in CC
Quite a bit apparently. If you've not read part one, click here. I'm following up that article with, well to be honest, more of the same.
One of the main arguments put forward in favour of Darren has been related to stats. He scores goals, so what else do we want from him? The counter-argument is that because of his lack of team-play quality (he doesn't hold up the ball well, support team mates, create or assist, not great at heading, woeful positioning) we only benefit from his goal-poaching when we play a certain type of formation or when away from home.
He's therefore one dimensional according to those who believe he doesn't bring anything else of value to the side. He just feeds off the scraps. Instinctively, but not as busy as a Greaves or Lineker who both, arguably goal-hanged, although both were very much capable of scoring goals out of nothing. But even though Greaves could go 85 minutes without doing much, then bang in a couple of goals, comparing Bent to Jimmy is borderline ridiculous. Is it not?
If one dimensional gets you a better goal ratio than a player who possesses more tricks in his locker, should we simply be playing to his 'strengths'? If your answer is yes, then what formation/team structure would we need to play? Perhaps kick random balls into the box and hope Bent gets on the end of some of them? Tottenham's play will have to be basic to cater for Bent upfront. Basic in the sense that nine outfield players link-up and get involved in build up play, with Bent waiting in the shadows alone for a ball to roll within proximity to his feet.
Harsh.
So what about those pesky statistics then? Here's a quick glance at the club stats from this season (thanks to CAS over at GG for the numbers which I've blatantly copy and pasted):
- Bent has played 1995 minutes for us so far this season which equates to 22.17 full games and in those games he has scored 14 goals
- Pav has played 1752 minutes for us which is 19.47 games and scored 12 goals
- Defoe has played 2414 minutes or 26.82 games and scored 12 goals (Pompey and Spurs)
- Keane has played 1860 minutes or 20.67 games and scored 7 goals (Liverpool and Spurs)
- Bent 1 goal every 1.58 games
- Pav 1 goal every 1.62 games
- Defoe 1 goal every 2.23 games
- Keane 1 goal every 2.95 games
And here's a run-down of when Bent's goals were notched up:
- 1 (A) PREM Chelsea 1-1 D Bent equaliser
- 2 (H) PREM Aston Villa 1-2 L Bent consolation
- 3 (H) UEFA Wisla Krakow 2-1 W Bent winner
- 4 (A) PREM Stoke City 2-1 L Bent consolation
- 5 (H) PREM Bolton 2-0 W Bent penalty
- 6 (A) PREM Arsenal 4-4 D Bent scores our second goal
- 9 (H) UEFA Dinamo Zagreb 4-0 W Bent hat-trick
- 11 (A) PREM Man City 2-1 W Bent brace
- 12 (A) CC Watford 2-1 W Bent winner
- 14 (A) PREM Bolton 3-2 L Bent brace
How many of the above were scraps/rebounds/plain lucky? How many were created after a sweeping move or out of absolutely nothing? How many saw Bent link-up with the midfield before sweeping forward to complete the move and bury the ball in the back of the net?
He's no Sandra Redknapp
Does it matter, as long as the end result is 'the ball hitting the back of the net'?
He's scoring so that's surely enough, no? If Robbie Keane scores less goals than Darren Bent per games played, does that make him any less of a player? Of course not. So who would you prefer to have in your starting line-up? Bent's ratio is possibly even better than what Berbatov managed with us - but would you pick Bent over the departed Bulgarian if he was still here? Silly question, right? You wouldn't.
So should you be asking 'why'?
It's OK to refer to the statistics and ratios and state this as evidence enough for his inclusion, but a stat worth looking at perhaps is how many assists come from the feet of Defoe/Pav/Keane etc compared to those of Darren Bent.
Note also that Cudicini has a habit of rolling the ball out to fullbacks when Pav isn't on the pitch, as Bent doesn't win headers. Personally, he should always roll the ball out. Prefer it when we play from the back, keeping the ball on the ground.
At this moment in time - should we not be concerned with anything other than hitting the back of the net, no matter how? Where Bent fails to achieve the link-up work of a Keane or a Pav (who both assist the team into functioning cohesively) he produces the final goods - goals. And in our predicament, surely any scrapes or rebounds will do. Surely goal celebrations are more imperative to a sweeping move involving 5 or 6 players resulting with a forward waving his arms in the air screaming at the ref?
Perhaps that's a simplistic way of looking at it. Bent is not a better footballer than Defoe or Keane. He won't get involved as much as either of them. He won't assist or create. We need to win games, no matter who does the scoring. And having a cohesive hard working Spurs team out on the pitch every week, players working for each other, will make a far greater impact than having a fragmented side with players who don't quite fit in.
(Although some might say, dropping back to link-up is the reason why Robbie's goal ratio isn't as good as Darren's)
In a relegation scrap, we can't afford to miss any opportunity that presents itself in front of goal. Bent still has a part to play in the season. He' still important for certain scenarios. But he's not going to be here come the end of the summer time. Where Spurs will be by the start of August is also up to 11 players rather than just one.
I guess, as ever, all we can do is support the players out on the pitch. Including Darren Bent. And I'll be celebrating one of his goals with the same loopy celebration that would accompany a Keane or Pav goal. If Darren continues to score goals in his limited appearances we won't be complaining.
15 comments:
I agree with the sentiment. He isn't the complete forward but he does what he's paid to do. I can tell you are struggling Spooky to decide on just how valuable he is to the team. He'll score more for us this season and will comfortably finish our top goal scorer.
And still be moved on in the summer.
Play Bent up front with Keane. Robbie will do all the link-up play and Bent will goal hang. Might just work.
Goal hang? Is that not something that worked in school playgrounds? I scored 15 goals once. All far post shots. Best lunch time striker on concrete me. Hell Ya!
Play Pav and Robbie up front. Bent can come off the bench.
-Dave
Still don't rate him.
Keep scoring the goals Darren and nobody will be complaining.
As long as the goals are winning goals.
Bent has no place in the team pretty much all his goals came off his shin or knee he runs around almost looking like he is pretending to look to recieve a pass and when it does come to him if he's outside the six yard box and isn't fully face on goal he don't have a clue what to do with it or again it comes off his shinpad or knee which results in everytime he loses possession it gives the other team a chance to run on and counter attack. If you call passing the ball to a hopeless donkey an attack to counter of course.
Gwaaaaan Dazza!!! Just work on your header. Orright?!
The important question is:
should I get a Bent 9 shirt or a Bale 666 shirt for the trip to Wombley?
Bent to score winning goal in Cup final.
Yes, I'm drinkingish, what you looking atish?
"Bent has no place in the team pretty much all his goals came off his shin or knee he runs around almost looking like he is pretending..."
Hahahahahahahha.
Brilliant.
Wish I'd thought of that one ~ he didn't really score at all. they largely do not count ~ if you don't feel that way inclined.
Brilliant.
bent.... Makes my heart weep when he's named in the squad,never mind the starting 11. So bad he doesn't deserve a capital. commoli(arse whinger's friend)knew what he was doing when he bought him. £16.5 million quid for fucks sake. What a waste of money. No workrate, no assists, no skill, no 1st touch and no good. The sooner he's gone the better. A perfect example of the 'bad attitude players' at spurs. COYS, WE DESERVE BETTER.
Last Sunday at the Lane was a great game although tense one of my comments comparing Darren Bent to Teflon, due to the fact that he always loses the ball and nothing sticks to him was welcomed with raptuos laughter that is Darren Bents problem he doesnt hold the ball up loses possesion is one dimensional and needs too many chances. now he has added a bad attitude to his negatives!!! the statistics are great but to be honest how good were Charlton as a team??
Hany any of you heard of Filippo Inzaghi?
You know, that guy who scored twice for Milan against Liverpool in the Champions League final.
So Spooky, excellent statistics bit you added, but Milan essentially did that strategy you somewhat slagged earlier, "Perhaps kick random balls into the box and hope Bent gets on the end of some of them?" Is exactly what Milan did, and they won the Champions League.
But there's no question it took beautiful play to get it into the box so it isn't that simplistic.
Excellent follow-up article.
It seems like the only solution for some of these fans is a 6'5" Lionel Messi who works his bollocks off on defense like Alan Smith.
Inzaghi, with all his faults, is still far busier than Darren Bent in and around the box.
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